The Contentions Of Humans

So I'm listening to a kind of a debate earlier today, more of an argument really, between one Muslim guy and another, and with a third person - not Muslim - in the middle pretending to moderate.

There's around 300 million Shia (Muslims) on the planet and around 1.7 billion Sunnis (Muslims).

The Sunni guy says to the Shia, 'Oh you know that Aisha, Mother of the Believers, tried to kill Hussein.'

And the Shia guy says 'God forbid such a thing!' 

And the two go at it for quite a few minutes saying first one thing to scandalize the other, and then the other giving back as much as he was given.

The third guy suddenly steps in and says 'Do you believe what the Quran says - 100% completely?'

'Oh yes, oh yes...' They both announce.

Mont Blanc has a 'library leather' collection
out now.
Do they care about actual libraries?
Not a bit.
Well, nobody else does either so 
what does it matter.
Lie-braries. Is what they have.

'So when I go to Heaven (aka 'Jannah' in the Arabic) if I am a Believer, I can have sex with Aisha, right...'

Waaaa?! Noooo.

'What do you mean 'no?' It says so in the Quran.'

'Where?? Where??'

'Right there: those who enter in Jannah will be able to have whatever they want.'

...And then he proceeds to quote half-a-dozen famous and respected authorities of the past who voiced their 'love' of Aisha to the point that they voiced the wish to 'have sex with Aisha' (Arabic is a much cruder language than we suppose though, and the source phraseology is in fact pretty crude).

And he gets them to affirm that so many various important and esteemed scholars opine that each of these 'would surely go to Jannah' on account of their struggles for Allah and his Messenger.

So what happens next with this kind of contentious argument?

Who knows? I don't know. I never stayed to hear the whole thing out.

Along the way it was already clear the Sunni guy was veering to the typical 'Oh Shias believe crazy stuff' while the Shia guy was making noises about how insulting Sunnis were towards great figures of early Islam, and how much lack-of-respect they all held for the Beloved Aisha Mother of the Believers.

At the foot of the Cross where Jesus was being (also) killed, as our current friend Ammon tells us, the texts say that there were two Marys, one the Mother of God and the other, the Magdalene...

And Ammon goes on to say how Jesus calls the young guy there as well, by the Greek title ascribed to the god Hermes...

And then Ammon tells us what no one has ever before said, namely that 'Magdalene' means the 'witch who has the power over life and death' - or Chaldean female magus.

Somewhere in the world, there are Seventh Day Adventists arguing about which day of the week -, whatever...

1.7 billion and 300 million.

And so on and so forth.

The Witch Queen.
Maybe. Could be.
Prolly is. Why not?

People. Humans.

And then - so let's just propose -,  hypothetically, this super-incredible advanced intelligent species turns up here, and absolutely does have the technical systems to ascertain if the Shia is right or the Sunni guy, or the third guy, or if Ammon Hillman has any truth in what his contentions are.

And these Aliens come to a particular conclusion, let's say, and then what?

Are they going to be able to 'convince' Sunni guy?

What about Shia guy?

What about those listening to Ammon? What about the Pope... ...for that matter.

Or anyone else.

One thing is for sure and is absolutely clear. All of the human beings firmly believe within themselves that they are honest, and that they have nothing but the best of all possible intentions and that they are inherently 'good' beings, and maybe sure of course they could be subject to better information and better conditions and so on.

But fundamentally the one thing you will never get any of them to say inside of their own minds, is this: 'I am a liar to myself and to others, and most of all I am a liar about what truly motivates me at every step. And I am not just ignorant, but I am a militantly stupid, militantly intent, self-deceiving liar. I would rather (literally) go to my grave holding onto whatever stupid nonsense I choose to believe and to think, rather than operate always on the basis that there is an objective Truth outside of myself which might not be what I know and think or imagine.'

As you position yourself in human society - in the present human social context - then you have to be a liar!

'I am a human and I want to be in human society.' 

The first part might be true - the second part is very tenuous of a statement to make broadly on behalf of everyone.

Well now I'm going to tell you something that is true and that is horrifying and most people will simply not accept it at all.

Human political truth
is like saying the Macron
truly cares about the flowers
of Versailles...

The reason that (some) 'people' exist on this planet, who kill others and do deliberately damaging things, is not at all for any reason of 'power' or political rule and widespread power over others, but it is because they are not alive in the Aionic Time sense. The Jewish Kabbalah people want to use the terminology and metaphorical language about a 'husk' and say these 'people' have nothing of the 'heavenly spark' inside of them.

A creature that exists on the planet - an animal - that also is like this, is the Komodo Dragon. And these animals are literally physical manifestations of what these other 'people' are really like if you could see them with the kinds of eyes that disclose it.

The 'people' have the objective of holding a real living human person in a position in which they have to give up either all of their living internal spark, or some of it, to the non-Aionic Time 'people' - and then they will be 'free.' Or freed. 

You don't believe this.

Beings on this Earth, have only mortal lives to play with in the ordinary physical run of things.

'Mortal' means they live a certain number of years, and then they die.

Now either you believe there is a Good Deity in command of the Cosmos, or else that beings can have advanced to the point where they daisy-chain internal consciousness, into new physical bodies, and by so doing, effectively 'live forever' - but are not exactly what you would call 'morally and ethically good.'

In other words, if no 'Good Deity' then it is possible that quite evil beings can definitely still 'evolve' and 'advance' technologically to the stage I outlined. 

But if a Good Deity, then no way can that happen, or ever have happened.

But then too, if a Good Deity (is posited) then we cannot insist such advanced physical beings are going to live their own lives in a permanent state of silly ignorance about all kinds of other things - instead, they will always insist on being as close to actual existential (real) Truth as is materially and intellectually possible.

Which leads me back to the beginning - to the central point of the argument - how can you persist in craziness all day long, sign up to utter nonsense, stuff that is provably wrong, never showing any desire or willingness to challenge naked falsehoods with appeals to evidence and to existential (means real and experienced) Truth, and then be in any kind of harmonic accord with an advanced Alien race that shies away from such absurdity of thinking all the time?

Dead people can still make great things.
Humans are all (mostly all) eventually
dead people because they are mortals.
This is linear time; Aionic Time is different.

You have no idea who taught the human race how to make bread in the Bronze Ages - which is how to repeatedly grow and re-grow wheat from seeds that are neither distinctly male or female. No idea who taught Alexander's army to make what today we would recognize as 'carbon fiber' employed to construct light, super-strong armored clothes. 

No idea what inspired the great religions of the Western World. No idea what languages they were composed as texts in. No idea who 'Moses' was. No idea what was there in the Harappan Valley civilization. No idea who built Gobekli Tepe. No idea who worked out the process of extracting the purple dye from the Murex sea-snail or why that color is reserved only for Royalty.

But you want to make a nuclear bomb to kill people with - to get your way because your way is guaranteed better than that guy's way who you are going to kill.

So today - tonight in fact - some 'friends'  are arriving out at Red Rocks Colorado. And you have not much time left to get your act together.

It's tonight.

LOL

IS... ...TONIGHT.

Okay actually you have plenty of time. Because you know exactly what to work on.

It's the rest of the world who are in some difficulty here.