Luke is the only Gospel in which this idea about Jesus forgiving those who murdered Him occurs, and it contains those well-known words '...Forgive them for they know not what they do.'
It is a bit unfortunate that the commonplace meaning that has been assigned to this is do with this incredibly Pollyanna kind of all-forgiving attitude that Jesus of Nazareth had, or is interpreted to have had.
The reality is that this phrase contains at least two separate meanings and implications - firstly, yes, it says something about forgiveness, but secondly, it is a statement of philosophical fact.
'They know not...'
Through a glass, and not so darkly. |
Well but hang on a minute, the Jews and all or most of today's mainstream Christians all teach that Adam and Eve knew Evil.
Well did they or didn't they?
You can try and work around this problem by saying that the phrase itself can be intended as only an immediate reaction to a particular egregious act, namely, that it was actually God Himself these people were killing (and let's not get too caught up in whether this is 'God' or the 'Son of God' because the word really is 'Divinity' and not our modern Germanic-English word 'God') - so 'they knew not that they were killing God...' (And I suppose it would have been all right then, if they had just been killing anyone else, right?).
Whereas they were in fact, doing Evil, because Pilate himself declared Jesus innocent of the alleged crimes in question, and Pilate was Roman Law. They were doing it, but there was someone behind them knowingly pulling their strings. And you can proved that with the other words there: 'Now is the hour that the Ruler of this World is cast down.'
So I don't think we do have a problem with the actual text. We have a problem with people making up false stories about what the text could mean.
What I want to do is give crystal clear direction about where and what...
And part of that is being able to convey the understanding that you are not Evil, and you do not on the whole do evil things and nor do you intend to do them.
Ah well, we will not be travelling to Paris anytime soon! |
But this world is kept in the grip of evil schemes and systems and people are held in here, but not only that, there are half-alive people who are exploited to maintain operations, as it were, and they are not even completely human in the sense of what we are all taught to believe that a human is, or that their full capacities extend to having them be.
So there is genuine Evil here and it is trying to rule all things.
It's much smarter than you are.
And it is far older too.
You see, on the one hand Jesus 'went away as on a journey to a far country' but on the other hand He is right at the door.
Well... Which one?
The key is in the word 'as.'
Herb salad for the poor vegetarians here. ...God I don't even dare to tell you about this roast beef roll and Paris dip that I had last night. |
'As if on.'
It's useless and pointless waiting without direction or guidance as to what you are waiting upon, and the Evangelicals all think they are waiting for a return in the clouds of this guy in white robes with other white-robed beings bearing harps, I guess.
The text makes it clear what you are waiting for.
Anyone? Anyone?
...It's not so much that there is an incredibly advanced high tech satellite heading towards Earth.
But I intend to talk about such things next up.
For right now, the question is, upon what next thing are you waiting?
Someone in the comments section of the YT video here said this track filled him with so much optimism.
Hmn.
Waiting for the Big Next Thing.
ReplyDelete'When your world's colliding, crashing from the sky, I'll be your satellite..." ; )
DeleteListen you can't set about to artificially 'convict' someone of a theoretical crime, and then procure a different political authority to carry out your penalty for you (they should have stoned the person to death) and not have that be an act of evil. It wasn't particularly an act of 'unspeakable' evil, because humans have done a whole lot worse than that before and since and many times too. We are rapidly getting to the place in ordinary human technology, at which someone will be able to re-grow and fully re-animate, IE have actually alive, some person made from a full section of DNA. Your mother died because of death, but whether or not a person re-grown from some DNA is the same actual alive 'person' then or not is a really significant Cosmic question we are rapidly going to have to deal with on this planet - at which moment we sure as heck ought to have worked it all out as far as the moral equation goes and our own psychological 'inward satisfaction point' about consciousness and ego and those kinds of things, and 'Evil' too. I mean for me, frankly, you are just enunciating a darn simple complaint - you don't believe in Santa because very bad things happened to you when you were a child, and one cannot expect that if God existed, He would let that sort of bad thing happen to a child. And He said as much Himself in the Gospels about children and all of that. So, you're just really asking a legitimate question on behalf not of 'you' as such or 'alone' but on behalf of all children.
ReplyDeleteHmm! Well I had a bad feeling when I introduced the dream. My real concern is more like this: IF "ET" shows up, it's likely he will not "come to my house." Someone else will come, his agent, and say "we need you to attest to the Truth, in writing, please." I will resist, and then be reminded of the infinite powers of ET, and my own moral lackings, and how stubborn am I going to be if that moment arrives? Do I believe that it matters?
ReplyDeleteFor me the dream is a kind of "beware of god the bully" lesson.
Also I think there is real power in the situation where I normal human being like "what exists" all over the world looks at the situation in the new testament and truly comprehends that "some agents" were doing something horrible to a person who was at the same moment using "his agency" to intercede on their behalf, making their tasks easier for them. Think about that and when the absurdity "hits you" and your mind goes "oh damn..." That is like "trance"
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