The Problem With The Fleming Story

There are two things to consider here - one is the undoubted (and I don't doubt it) ability of Ian Fleming as a writer, but the other is the myth and government-directed propaganda about what his involvement in the James Bond stories really was.

I have managed at least on one previous occasion to jolt some of us here out of your slumbers, with a vigorous argument over Leslie Charteris and his screenplay activities in Hollywood - and I guess I'm about to do it again now, if there's anyone still around to pick up the other side.

Viscountess Rothermere, the real one...
You only live twice, or so it seems...
Trust me, you don't know what you don't know;
but I'll tell ya. A bit at least.

Okay that Charteris is not the Charteris family of 'hellfire club' infamy in the UK; but if anything both he and those UK Charteris people have a jointly much more interesting real history together.

I defy anyone to produce even one single authentic fact as evidence that Ian Fleming ever was a UK spy in the field, ever. He was effectively a personal assistant and private secretary to a Royal Navy Admiral on recommendation of his then soon-to-be father-in-law, and owner of the Daily Mail. In other words, he was a journalist. A press spokesman, as it were, not unlike what modern politicians nowadays all have.

However, what he did do, as the direct consequence of his recognized and undoubted skills as a reporter and journalist, was interface, officially, with William Donovan who was then heading the US intelligence co-operation between the USA and the United Kingdom - and Donovan eventually started the CIA. One of his kids started a company that I personally worked with and partly also for, which is even today still in operation and situated (headquartered) in Lincolnwood, IL. It's a business information company.

Anne Rothermere - Mrs Ian Fleming

The reasons I make much of all of this is to have the thoughtful people among you, come to a realization about the UK, and the relationship (if any) that the US has with UK secret intelligence. You see, Churchill was not the good guy you all think...

The trouble with today's UK, is that it is not, 'Great Britain' as such; it is 'the United Kingdom.' And there is a difference - and the following explains what that difference is:

The Windsors may not genuinely claim 'Britannic Majesty.' That ended when some of the merchants and baronial class committed the regicide of their king. 'Britannic Majesty' came about because of Charles' uncle Louis of France and their joint command of the seas of the world. Louis provided the money, Charles had the naval architects and technology. Windsors had nothing. Ever.

This rivalry extended well past the fact of the Windsors remaining, because those Irish and Scots whose loyalties were still with Charles and Louis (as indeed was also the case with many states in the new 'America') were continually rebuffed by Whitehall. 

O'Neills of Ireland - Earls of Tyrone - were among those, so were the Macleods of Skye, for example. 

Now what you have to appreciate, is that the guilt complex of the fake current layers of 'aristocrats' in the UK causes them to need to suppress all of that history, and they do it by obstructing any possibility of those on 'the other side' as it were, becoming prominent in England. 

Hugo Charteris - Anne Rothermere's brother

The person who was a field agent doing covert work for major official agencies - was Noel Coward - but he effectively left the UK for good when he discovered that Churchill had deliberately blocked his knighthood which was actually sought by George VI himself. 

...And the other person who really was an active spy in the field, was Fleming's wife Anne Rothermere. She had originally been married to Lord O'Neill who died in a military campaign. Rothermere worked for the same organization that Fleming interfaced with but did not actually work for, if you see the difference. This is the same thing as if today, you were the UK representative of the Five Groups co-operative intelligence grouping, but not actually in let's say, the NSA, which actually has all the core data.

Now whenever you read stories about Fleming and UK secret services bear this in mind, you are not being told where those stories are emanating from, who is driving them, and how did they get the so-called 'information' they are proliferating.

The difference, my friends with me, is that my godfather, was an O'Neill from those O'Neills, and my dad's first cousin was Kevin McClory, the guy who actually wrote 'Thunderball.'

Except that he didn't actually 'write it,' as in, not as the final cut, nicely edited, piece of UK propaganda that was actually internally about an American covert operation, partly run by an American private corporation, by name 'Glomar' or at least 'Hughes Corporation Deep-sea Exploration.' However, his name and the name of the CIA operative designated to oversee the project, Jack Whittingham, are on the copyright notice.

As you know, Anne Rothermere's brother was Hugo Charteris.

And I've mentioned here many times that my father used to have to 'take in' a number of UK luminaries over the years - either when they were doing something for Shell Far East, or on rehabilitative furlough, as in the case of Anthony Burgess, or for some other reason. Burgess I 'donated' (voluntarily I might add, because I felt sorry for him) my bedroom when I was just a very very young child!!

So let me now take a few words directly from Wikipedia since I find nowadays there are a lot of idiots who prefer 'the facts' and 'the truth' from Wikipedia above from the horse's mouth directly:

"After the war he went to Malaya where he served as public relations officer for south-east Asia command."

Ahem. 

Okay?

Marilyn Monroe's favorite - the thing she slept in naked,
and Fleming's favorite brand. And yes, she also spoke about
Chanel No 5.

So that's Mrs Ian Fleming's wife's brother. Got it? My father was head of teacher training Malaya at the time, but he also had the most extensive tea and rubber plantations as well at that time (up to '47) - and then eventually he became permanent director of Education for the Federation of Malaysia. I'm not going into what specific relationship he had with the UK government but he had one.

So stop trying to gainsay what I am telling you, those of you who have that bent of mind. You don't know what you are talking about, and neither does 'the Robb Report' for that matter! They simply have no clue.

(Anne) Rothermere 'donated' the bases of the stories on the whole, to Fleming, but he was himself a very good writer up to a point.

And that is not the current folklore but it is only folklore and not fact what is widely spruiked.

My uncle worked as plant manager for Wrigley's Singapore. Whittingham (Thunderball) was married to the Wrigley heiress - Wrigley itself being an American company situation also - along with Donovan's company - in Illinois.

So stop it, stop believing the nonsense people write in trash publications - you'll go blind.

Here's the massive point that goes missing whenever you following blindly the nonsense - you see, and I'm sure it's all coming together slowly in your mind, some of these things revolve around huge global private corporations and super-wealthy, connected but otherwise private people. Yeah there's official government agencies - there's also others... And so this all does tie back to my original plan to post about 'salon society.' 

You see, they haven't really gone anywhere. But if you read things like Wikipedia on Jack Whittingham, they make him out to be something like 'just a contract screenwriter.' OMG.