Why Theodicy And 'ET's...'

A very recent comment by Richard Dawkins that was widely reported in the general media, was to the effect that 'soon, we will have AI robots with consciousness, able to identify themselves and to feel pain.'

Somehow, he seems to think 'feeling pain' is important... LOL 

The subtext of what he was saying, though, was that AI 'should have rights.' 

This guy. I dunno. But I mean he's not alone, is he? Gates, even Musk - they're all talking this same talk. 

Very suspicious motif...

Look, for me, you get the AI to appreciate the beer, and hey sure, we'll think about it. I don't have a problem talking over the relative merits with some AI robot, of the artisan brune beer they just added 'on tap' at the Belgian Beer Cafe I go to that just ran out of Leffe because of delays in shipping due to you-know-what.

They're jumping the gun, Gates and Dawkins and company. We are way off from even knowing what 'consciousness' actually is. It's easy to make bald statements that appear to describe what it is...

I might as well come out and just plain say, of course we have had interactions with ET aliens. There are people around today who have all the platform in the world - whatsisname, Luis Elizondo, for example - that the media broadly suggests without ever being able to prove it, that they 'worked for some US government unit' trying to maybe annotate various reports and so on...

There is no evidence these people were really in any official actual program.

There was a program. It was partly an academic program and it was run by Munroe Leaf. He was the civilian liaison. And this is in real CIA files. Theoretically, it could be checked - and it would be IMPOSSIBLE to deny. That doesn't mean to say anything came of it all. And I'll tell you the reason why.

Anything to do with really significant technology and hence - power - ends up in the hands of political interests and whichever military is being exploited by those interests at any given time in human history.

You like...?

Does anyone seriously believe that a genuinely advanced - and technologically advanced - ET alien group is going to just blithely and carelessly hand across this kind of destructive stuff to the idiots who commandeer your world?!!

I mean - does Richard Dawkins think this, if you asked him? I mean just how damned arrogant are these clots?

To the best of my knowledge, only twice has there been any 'obvious' ET interaction that turned up on the radar, so to speak, of the US government and the military - and both times it was to do with nuclear risk.

And at the end of the day, the academic assessments of what had taken place all focused in
on the problem of 'theodicy ' - which is the manifestation of evil, the moral and the ethical questions entailed, and what might be the perspective of ET towards us and the way we behave.

Nice eyes.

People in the CIA have pored through all the most ancient texts and philosophical writings we have as a species, more or less since the dawn of written culture - and none of it answers the major question: why, if there is a god, and if it is good, does it permit the manifestation of evil in a world of apparent naivety and relative innocence? 

Why this is an important question in context, is that it pertains equally whether you are just considering a putative 'deity' or some super dooper advance intelligence species that is here, but that is not 'us.'

And so... ...I am here to tell you, that ET came up with an answer for us. And one conclusion is that they might not ever formally engage with any human government at all - not now, not ever, potentially. Not 'officially.' They don't recognize government as having any standing as far as they are concerned... Secondly, they are potentially very dangerous to governments and to everything that such things stand for and represent. You see, ET is not 'morally relativistic.' It cannot afford to be.

But then what does that mean 'not into moral relativism?' What would 'moral absolutism' mean in their hands?

When I post things here like 'don't make the mistake' I mean to say don't think there is either 'no evidence' or that 'no such things exist' or that any of this is speculation. They exist. They are most certainly here. And they are HUGELY dangerous. But, you can work with them too.

If you go, for example, to the Aidvata Vedanta system, and you pose to it, the question of theodicy - you will end up with this story about how one of the great sages once posed that question to the god Brahma, who told them something, I forget, but it was pretty specious. And the sage retorted - 'oh easy for you to say, you are Brahma and you don't have this kind of suffering, but for us it means death!'

To which Brahma replied with another silly question - 'what do you mean to you it means death? Do you even know who you are?'

All the human religious/philosophical systems give you no real categorical answer. Certainly not openly, in any crystal clear fashion.

But you must have this question satisfactorily answered, otherwise you are likely as not, not going to be allowed anywhere really near these beings.

People do get near them, but you will see them also go 'right off their faces' in those situations, as they say - they have no detailed and accurate recollection of what is going on.

You have to answer the question of theodicy. Have to. There is no way out, no other way at all.

Richard Dawkins can yell and scream and declaim all he likes, so can Neil deGrasse Tyson. Believe me, they're not actually smart people. Stop giving them the credibility that you have been giving them, if, you have been. These guys are not worth it.

You get any of them, to give you a satisfying answer to the question of theodicy. They cannot.

Have a go yourself.

You have nothing to lose. ...These people here, are mostly 'out of it:'

Don't Make The Serious Mistake

When you look around yourself, at the world today, and you think, oh not much has changed, everything is the way it always was... ...think again.

Yes, on the one hand, sure, 'tings is still just like dey ever was Charlie...'

Last night, there was a live performance at the ASeven Club in Berlin - except there was this 'social distancing and no dancing' rule! LOL

This was well before the pandemic - last night they
were all sitting down at tables!! Being still, not moving... lol

It was quite funny, watching maybe thirty/forty Germans, average age would have to be sixty-five at least, all sitting stock still in their chairs, with heavy-duty EDM Techno-Trance hitting them from the front stage. ...At least they had women coming around serving them Stella Artois, was the word on the actual brand.

I couldn't believe that the audience was so well, old, frankly... Later on, after the show, when the main white lights came back on, you could see the males were pretty beefy guys all the same and probably more than half the audience were women; mixed ages, although the men did certainly appear to be much older on the whole.

The livestream chat bar with people from all across the world were of course making the standard jokes about Germans!

...And then on the other hand.

This place, but with about forty people.

If you look up something like 'moral theology/moral philosophy' on the internet, you will be given hundreds of answers linking to the same basic commentaries - and all of them will quickly shift into 'ethics' and ideas about what is 'right' and/or 'wrong.'

Even the usually austerely comprehensive and detailed books of philosophical investigations into complex metaphysics and material reality, such as the Vedanta texts, all stop at this point and take a sideways turn into 'ethics' and not moral philosophy as such.

If a very very advanced, futuristic-to-us, kind of sentient intelligence finds us here, locates us, chooses to interact with us, it will of necessity of its own survival and existence past the technological ability to destroy itself, have a set of absolute moral values...

Oh this is a very suspicious symbol, as you all know. 

I believe I have said before that we live in the context of a society of moral relativism. Power status determines how people behave towards other people. The capacity to take retribution as and when, has always attended the rise to temporary power of any group or individual on this planet. When the Chinese Communists took power and control from the vestiges of feudal China, it was theoretically on behalf of the rights of common folk. Now that the CCP has absolute power inside Mainland China and has also reached some kind of technical proficiency in keeping with what the common assumptions about 'modern' civilization are, they are doing exactly the same thing that those they decried and overthrew had been doing all along against the ordinary public.

But I want to take you to another place, another whole mindset.

And this will be very far away from anything you are used to. You will ask yourself at some point, okay well but maybe we can go back and help others along, help them forward. But no, you cannot do this. You won't be allowed to do it.

People must either 'get there' themselves, or they cannot get in there. 

Scary what the sign says, right?

If you had, literally, a material machine, a device of some kind, suddenly appear right in front of you, is this going to end up being the reason for you to contemplate a radically different moral mindset...?

There are such devices. You can say they employ properties of the Bose-Einstein condensate, and are able to exploit hitherto unknown in our history, aspects of time-space. Which means they are just advances and developments of ordinary Evolution elsewhere in the Universe that different civilizations have devised out of basic 'science' and technology.

Still though, necessarily, such civilizations will have gone through some conceptual watershed to do with moral philosophy, if not moral theology.

So what then, I am talking about, when I say 'moral?' Or 'moral philosophy?'

Rustenburg South Africa, Bill. You'd want a face mask there!

I mean is there some accurate understanding of what is 'Good' and what is 'Evil?'

The Vedic texts - the Ramayana and the Rigveda - implicitly state that the kinds of craft that can traverse the time and spatial distances of the entire Universe are horrendously expensive to make and to use... ...so much so that they are literally in the hands of the 'accountant of the gods' (IE 'Kubera'). So it's not so simple, if you go by these ideas, to just have 'ET aliens' suddenly turn up and take you and me away somewhere for no deep purpose whatsoever. The word that is used in the Sanskrit, interestingly, itself literally means to be able to measure out, and to traverse across everything (including the whole Universe, vast or indeed unending as it is).

Little, white, thingy...

Again interestingly, the Ashoka Edict record, specifies some connection between high frequency sound and the ability of these craft to do what they apparently do - if you go according to the Sanskrit Vedas.

The way to find, to locate, any of this as a reality, something you can see, feel, touch, experience - is to come away from everything that everyone else is doing and thinking. No doubt, if you go into a huge crowd of people, all visually nondescript for the moments they are all together, it's impossible to say who else (what else) is right in there with you, and even if you witness something, let's just say, 'different,' you will never be able to explain it convincingly enough to others who did not have that experience alongside you.

If you were in Beijing last week and you photographed a few peculiar colored lights up in the clouds above, well, these might not have been ET aliens - they could have been guide-star lasers being shot downwards from some man-made platform in Earth orbit. Still, there is doubt of course. LOL Half the time it's the doubt that counts anyway with warfare.

What rich people do, right? LOL

EDM Trance Music Raves come in two distinct kinds - one, the big venue, often open-air venue with thousands of people, and the other which is 'underground,' secretive, and sometimes even 'illegal.' There are plenty of stupid people who gravitate towards any of this, with the objective of 'doing drugs.' And there are an extremely rare number of intelligent people, who are looking at the deep meaning of 'Good' v. 'Evil.'

Because 'truly advanced' = truly powerful. And you have to behave, and be polite, and watch it, if you ever get even close to that which is truly that powerful. One need not be obsequious - that is not attractive anyway. Cautious, composed, not arrogant, and open to what you will be told.

The world is a different place today. Observe just how it is (laser harp):

To Belgium For The Beer

The President of the United States of America, Donald J. Trump, ordered the re-positioning of 12,000 troops from out of Germany, across to Belgium.

This is a good plan. Belgium has far better beer than Germany - although, admittedly, Germany does have the 'Thuringian sausage...' (Thuringer Bratwurst).

It would not surprise me in the least if Elon Musk suddenly took a quick trip over to Belgium too, although his elven wife Xan, oh sorry 'Grimes...' got the impression he was going over there to visit the pretty little things that go to the 'Tomorrowland Live Music Concerts' every now and then.

Our friend Paul, at Tomorrowland in Belgium.

Belgian food styles are quite 'unusual,' really - they do things that are not really common elsewhere around the whole planet: they do sweet syrupy sauces which they add to just about anything, from waffles and bread to cheeses and sausages.

And yes, they do waffles. Belgian waffles!

And they do beer.

There is, of course, a recent-ish and rather spectacular infamy also to do with Belgium - and that is the strange case of a certain Marc Dutroux, a diagnosed psychopath who eventually claimed to be nothing more than a 'low dog' of a highly-placed network of fiends involved in all kinds of very nasty Satanic practices. At one point a publicly-known Satanic sect called 'the Abraxis Group' was brought into the evidence and various charges were laid, most of which stuck in the end. The fact also is, of course, that it did indeed become exposed that there had been interference in the investigations, and which interference had involved figures high up in government and the judiciary. 

If you followed the money trails, they led through Czechoslovakia and Slovenia, where transactions were being made over the trafficking of young sex slaves - to North Africa and Arabia.

Would you buy Belgian beer futures, like
you might 'Orange Juice Futures?'

I think 12,000 armed troops should just about do it there...

Wikileaks of course, was also tied to this Dutroux matter at some point - when attempts by the Belgian courts were successfully made to suppress Assange's releasing of confidential files to do with the cases involving sex trafficking, enslavement, and pedophilia.

I mean sure you could release Julian Assange. But release him to where? He is not going to be protected the way the UK spying agencies and clandestine operations are protecting the Skripals.

It is difficult for ordinary people such as we are around here, to even comprehend what could possibly motivate 'highly placed' individuals to mess around with such disastrous activities as underage sex rings and murderous plots to extort and corrupt, and for much of the time we would prefer to think that all of these unspeakable horrors were conducted only by lunatics acting alone who got away with things for a short while...

Alas but, this is no realistic reflection of what has been happening. I do not believe the Ghislaine Maxwell story is going to yield only a limited harvest. Because I will tell you one thing - Maxwell is the 'low foot-soldier.' But she does link to other things. 

Those people who grasp onto material excess the way that almost everyone in the 'highly placed' set does these days - they are the Demonic. They are embodying very unhealthy unseen forces. In this world, you think you are not super rich because of bad luck, but I tell you, if you are not fully committed to a Dark Side, they will never abide your presence visually as equal to them, to look, like one of them... That is why the Advaita Vedantas all move around as 'homeless monks' wearing simple-looking clothes. Evil is not too bright, is it.

Soon, people are going to get hurt on this planet. Don't worry about it.  

It's nothing.

The 'Hail Mary' Pass

As you know, the so-called 'Hail Mary' pass is when the quarterback chucks a long high ball forward over the heads of everyone and hopes and prays that some receiver is going to make it fast enough laterally across as the ball spends time sailing to its apogee in its deliberately high-thrown curve. 

The principle really is not that someone is throwing blind as such, and hoping, because if it's done properly the thrower is supposed to position his throw towards specific forward points that are already well-known to the receivers.

Beautifully photographed, big empty room.

Silly people imagine that just because say, Vince Lombardi was coaching Notre Dame, then the whole thing revolved around saying a prayer to Mary the Mother of God, and thus by way of a miraculous intervention, the ball was caught by the receiver running forward and stretching their hand out, as if to something being handed down by God(LOL) to them.

The truth is somewhat more pragmatic. The 'Hail Mary' part was that you should lift the ball sufficiently high into the sky, that its duration up there was long enough for you to be able to recite a 'Hail Mary' (at least hypothetically, and perhaps too, if you said it really quickly...) before it came back down again and landed. That way, the theory basically was, that the man running forward horizontally across the flat ground in a straight line,would be able to reach to the right spot forward when the ball was ready to land.

So frankly, it's not so much that an Intel Agency sends some magical code words out there - you know, like 'Aliens' or 'Alien DNA'(!) - in the hope that there really are actual super advanced ET aliens out here somewhere who will step in and render some help because it is drastically required.

But in a dark spot, you throw to where the light is...

Because for one thing, you know, aliens are maybe not so sympathetic anyway. They might want to hurt some people. For example, if absolutely no one at all - other than the new head of UK's so-called 'MI6' - knew where the Skripals were holed up, and someone else suddenly says where they are, people have two different problems: one, what to do next re keeping Skripals remaining hidden from whoever the idiots at MI6 imagine is actually after them to do them harm that is not in the first place the UK government spying agencies themselves, and two, trying to work out how in the hell anyone else found out, where they were being 'secretly' tucked away.

Take for example the following pics. These show structures predominantly made from ballistic glass. One of them is of a whole new building in Central London. The other is a conceptual study of a structure that could be a kind of a penthouse thing positioned on the top of a building, and set back a ways from the edges. 

Now if or when, you ever see such a 'penthouse' type structure, but where there are actually two separate glass walls, like a walk-way arrangement around the whole main living room/bedrooms/dining room area, then what you are looking at is a security system designed to foil sniper rifle shots.

Let me tell you, Richard Moore is quite the cocky little smart-arse but even he would get a turn if I posted exactly where such a structure exists right now today, somewhere in the world...

LOL

New London glass-and-metal building

So I'm not going to do that.

Isn't that right, Richard?

The 'Hail Mary pass' as far as any of the more credible modern-era information organizations is concerned, is when they send something right up into space, really really high, and have to trust that whatever is up here actually does have the balls, so to speak, and also doesn't believe that the ground of the world down below is flat. No one is going to be able to run that fast enough forward to be able to catch us now. We're zooming around the planet at super-satellite speed and they are all running around on penny farthings! LOL.

So yes, we did catch the ball, if you were wondering back down home. Down home, y'all. And we do also completely trust you too. So you can keep on throwing them balls. The enemy is dead. Which doesn't mean any of us can afford to take zombies for granted as actual 'opponents.' Nothing's ever over till it is fully 'over and out for keeps.' 

The ultimate Evil is certainly still with us. And they make zombies. They are zombie-masters themselves.

Sometimes the trouble with what looks like just whacky conspiracy theories, is that they actually add up to much the same thing even if you just look at it all with a rational mind. One really does have to wonder why on Earth there is so much animus on the part of people like Robert De Niro... Why is he so bitter? He should be wealthy, successful, satisfied, calm, relaxed. I frankly have to admit he does not even look like the same guy some of us here have met albeit just very casually, in South Africa...

Only one wall of glass, when there are two walls -
one outside the other, it's 'a funny place.'

Don't know. Can't be bothered to really find out. It's not on any page of discussion that is important to anyone I know. If he is acting like a stupid zombie, why well then that is what he is. 

That is how he should be treated even if there are no such things as 'actual zombies!'

Nod nod wink wink. And that was a clue about something. Because sometimes too, things are exactly what some people say and think they are.

Either way folks, if the President of the United States himself gives you an indication it is so, well, it is probably so. 

I'm telling you it's so. (Also).

Bach's Concerto 5 in D Major

Realistically, it's impossible to know exactly where music got so impressive and so sophisticated for us.

The emotive power intrinsic inside of music itself was known from as far back as we can go in history, and probably one of its most well-known applications was by a range of ancient armies from the Egyptians to the Macedonians - when their military drummers were organized to beat musically-tuned skin drums along to the Phrygian mode (basically what you can hear when you listen to Ravel's Bolero) being played by accompanying pipes and horns, as their armies marched into battle.

'Above and Beyond.'

I myself, would always point to Bach's Concerto Number 5 in D Major - especially the latter part of the first movement, usually played on harpsichord, but nowadays also by violins and very resonant piano - as the very first time genuine modern 'trance music' was devised. Those of you here (and there are some who are definite fans of Bach) who know this particular Concerto by Bach, will be aware of the simply staggering arpeggios in the latter parts of the First Movement...

And if you know that part very well, you will pick up that it is the basis of this very recent EDM trance track by the London Group 'Above and Beyond' and their lead singer Zoe Johnston.

Zoe Johnston

Zoe just recently sang this track literally from somewhere in the middle of the actual crowd, the audience - at a Live performance in Prague - using a high tech wireless mic.

...As I have been saying, there's a lot that goes on in these crowds. Stuff you never would believe if people spelled it out.

And it's probably better that no one does 'spell it out' because all that would happen is good things would likely be damaged. You just have to use your brains and work it out.